Author Topic: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1 - B700 Chrysler PT Cruiser)  (Read 1612 times)

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.....Wednsday Afternoon......

Fit: Hey Spanky, I'll be out for a little while this afternoon.  There's a monthly Police auction in town and I'm lookin for something a bit more practical to drive everyday.  Never know I could luck into a new project while I'm there.

Spanky: Huh, you shoulda kept one of the cars we were givin away.  Some of 'em were in purty good shape fer a ev'ryday driver.  Have fun, not like were busy today anyhow.

Fit: Alright, see you in a bit.

At the auction Fit spends the day crawlin in and out of lots of cars.  Honda's, Nissan's, Toyota's, a Chevy or two, and finally one of the econo-boxes just feels right.  As the auction gets under way the buyers play their mind games tryin to keep the prices low but still get just the right one.  One by one the cars hit the block, the auctioneers speekin greek, and only the pro's really know whats goin on.  The longer the auction goes the thinner the crowd gets and Fits gem still sits out in the lane.  Cars from behind it are pulled in out of order.  Curiosly Fit pokes his head out to see the hood go up, the headlights go dim, and the car sits.  All of the other small cars are gone, 'damn, I shoulda bid on the Civic, it was a safe bet' Fit thinks.  The auctioneer makes his last call and the dealers fill up their haulers and start leaving.  Still, the diamond in the rough sits.  

Fit: So what do you make of this one.

Lot Attendant: Won't start, won't even crank with the jumper on it anymore.  Why you want it.

Fit: Auctions over, had an eye on it but I don't know about buyin a car that won't crank.  Could need a motor.

Lot Attendant: Hey, Smitty, fella here might be interested in this'un but it aint startin.  What shud eye do.

Smitty:Crank it one more time and see if she'll fire.

click, click, click.......nothin

Smitty: Looks like we got us a bad one.  You say you want it, make me an offer.

Fit: (Shakin his head) I dunno, it won't crank, can't hear it run, might need a lot of work.  You doin another auction next month right?

Lot Attendant: Smitty we gotta move all the cars to get the bonus (he whispers, but not quiet enough)

Smitty: You gonna make an offer or am I pushin this one back to the lot.

Fit: Five hundred, and I'll pull it outa here.

Smitty: (pullin out a title) Deal, sign here and get this junk outta here.  

Fit yanks the car out to the parkin lot with the hauler, pops the hood and looks to hook up the jumper cables.  As he flips up the battery post covers he pulls the whole negative cable off.  'You gotta be kiddin me.'  He put the cable back on, there is a small spark, and tightens the cable down with an adjustable wrench.  Hookin up the jumpers he sees Smitty lockin up the gates, smurkin at Fit.  Fit waves and leans in the window of his new ride, cranks it and it fires with a smal puff of smoke and runs like a top.  

Fit: (waving) Now that's a Mastercard moment if I've ever seen one.  Priceless.

Heading back to the shop its apparent that he's just found the first American Oddity.  Now to make it into something he's not affraid to be seen in.  But that's easier said than done when you intend to pull up to the track in a PT Cruiser.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2009, 04:04:02 PM by Fit4aking »
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2008, 03:50:58 PM »
B-class PT Cruiser (RWD)
Spanky's Speedshops 1st American Oddity


The Build
Engine Parts: RWD Powertrain Swap
Platform Parts: Full Race, Sport Weight Reduction
Tires and Wheels:
     Tire Type/Brand: Yokohama Slicks
     Rim Style: Fikse Profil 5S
     Rim Width: 235/40-18
Spoilers and Diffusers: Full Forza Aero

The Toon
Tire Pressure:
     Front: 29
     Rear: 29
Gearing:
     Final Drive: 3.70
     (1-6): 2.89, 1.99, 1.51, 1.20, 1.00, 0.85
Alignment:
     Camber Front: -1.0
     Camber Rear: -0.6
     Toe Front: 0.1
     Toe Rear: -0.2
     Caster: 5.0
Anti Sway Bars:
     Front: 10.24
     Rear: 12.33
Springs:
     Front: 482.8
     Rear: 393.1
Dampers:
     Rebound Front: 8.2
     Rebound Rear: 6.8
     Bound Front: 4.1
     Bound Rear: 3.4
Aero Adjustment:
     Splitter (Ft): 80
     Spoiler (Rr): 110
Brake Bias:
     Bias: 47%
     Pressure: 100%
Differential:
     Acceleration: 25%
     Deceleration: 55%
« Last Edit: January 11, 2008, 10:39:56 PM by Fit4aking »
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2008, 03:55:29 PM »
It was quite fun to toss this one around in C class actually (stock engine of course)... not particularly fast according to the clock, but then again that's probably not to be expected ;)

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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2008, 07:51:20 PM »
This looks like a lot of fun.  I might play along.  Any restrictions?
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008, 08:10:31 PM »
This looks interesting - not only because its a PT Cruiser, but also because it is an in depth attempt at a FWD-RWD conversion.
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2008, 09:03:17 PM »
I'll tip my hand on this a little.  I recently reworked this car and began this little journey.  Turns out its a pretty quick little short track racer.  I ran the bejesus out of this on Suzuka East.  Turns out it's holding down a time of 52.192 putting it just a hair ahead of Blooze and his APR Celica in 1,649th place.  Not great but its a RWD PT Cruiser for cripes sake.  Ahead of me on the leaderboard is a CRX, 2 Mugen Integras, an 05 STI and a Peugeot 206.  Directly behind is an Elise 135, 2 more Mugen Integras, and a Lancia Delta.  Lots of the usual suspects with a stranger in the middle.

With all of my recent dealings on the Short tracks I'll be focusing my efforts there and while I'm off in Laguna with the LMMS I may have to pack this one up along with the IS430 and the Panoz.
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2008, 07:06:13 PM »
Yeah, you did run the bejeesus out of it.  Apparently the bebuddha is gone, too.  I just ran a 54.770.  Nice time, man.
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2008, 10:40:56 PM »
Updated with all the goodies.  Have fun with it if you'd like, add suggestions or just plain ole prove that I'm a slow driver.  I'd love some feedback.
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2008, 03:27:01 PM »
Just built it up - might be a day or two before I get her run though. Am I right in thinking you didn't add any skirts or a light weight hood?
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2008, 07:09:10 PM »
You know Spiny, I actually can't remember about the skirts but I know I didn't add a hood.  I had it up a class and decided that trying to bias the car and run it against anything was futile.  I moved it down to see if I could make something out of it.  I knew it was quick on Suzuka East (not fast, quick) and it held its own online a time or two against other Pro's.  It will never be a leaderboard killer but if I can find at least one track that it really shines on I'm sure it will suprise a lot of the sheeple online.

Good luck, it should remind you of driving the Crossfire.
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2008, 01:56:59 PM »
Sad to say I was thinking after I set it up what the drivetrain had come from. And having run the Crossfire in this weeks challenge it never occurred to me that's where it's from :-[
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2008, 05:31:02 PM »
Finally got around to running this tonight. My best time was a 51.854 which beat my '69 Camaro SS to become my best B-Class time around here. Unfortunately though that doesn't tell the whole story...

I've been running R1's the last couple of days, so first corner my reaction was: Why won't this turn? Once I'd got it into my head that this wasn't an R1 car the turn in seemed fine. However, I get the feel that Fit is a much smoother driver than me as this car really doesn't like kerbs. (For those who haven't seen me online, I'm one of those drivers who attackes the kerbs - if the parts wore out in Forza I would be buying a new set of springs and damers every other race :D .) Also, the pressures end up in the 33 psi range when I drive it. I don't know whether Fit has designed it to be there, or whether it's me having a more agreesive driving style pushing them up above (my ideal) 32 psi.

In all other respects I can't really fault it, with the possible exception that the  back end gets unsettled on that bump in the last corner, but again I think that's the same problem as I see on the kerbs. I think the set-up is fast (1220th on current places) - the trouble is that I'm not smooth enough to take full advantage of it. :-\
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2008, 04:45:49 AM »
I am looking forward to when I get back to B Class - I want to build me one of these.

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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2008, 05:32:21 PM »
Took the opportunity to run this online Friday night with Bimmer, fndr, purestankonia, and others.  I took it outside of my comfort zone and ran it on Laguna Seca.  I wasn't sure how it would do on a longer track.  Needless to say it did well, I was easily holding the turns with little throttle control needed, it just stuck.  I was able to get in to the 92 second range which is in the 98th percentile but not great in my opinion.  Some gearing help would improve the car a smidge but I like how it works on a large variety of tracks.  We also ran on Diamondback and I was able to run the gauntlet of competators and pull out a win. 

The most fun aspect of this car besides its large amount of grip and predictability is the fact that noone likes to get beat by a PT Cruiser.  The replay of me scooting past Bimmer on his JEi E36 is classic.  If I can find a good spot to take a pic I'll post it.  I'm even more impressed with this car now and I think it earned a place in my B-class hotlap armada.
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Re: American Oddities: PT Cruiser (Round 1)
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2008, 05:40:46 PM »
It fits your style slightly better than mine, thought I'm not sure why.  Still, a great build, and a lot of fun to drive.
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