Author Topic: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)  (Read 2439 times)

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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2007, 04:52:08 PM »
Finally got the Cuda up an painted.  I'm not pleased with the current build so later tonight I'm gonna go over it and find out why its not workin for me.  The tune is OK, it handles well, accelerates well with little spin, turn-in is fine.  Speedwise it sucks.  It doesn't accelerate much faster than my IS.  It doesn't grip quite as good as the Sprinter (duh).  Finally it doesn't have the top end of any other Muscle car.  I may need to swap out my native for something a bit faster.

I don't intend on having a hotlap missle around as a stand in any more than I want to go off and build a MkII or a Mugen Integra.  My strategy or theory about hotlapping is to run cars that I want instead of what is popular (unless they coinside, but I doubt that).  I want to do well but I want a sense of accomplishment more than I want the overall ranking number.  As we've already determined that your ranking number changes constantly and near instantly so chasing #1 is a goal but requires a different set of standards.  The ability and willingness to build a great car and toon for each track in each class.  Multiple Chevelle's, Mugen Integra's, Lotus 135R's, Saleen S7's, the list never ends.  Only after that would I need the time to build and toon the cars I wanted to run in the firstplace.  The worst part about that is I would know that everytime I had to choose a car for a race that it would most likely be a leaderboard car or a slower car.  Mentaly it would be hard to pick a TVR or a Panoz over another car in my garage that I knew was a lot faster.  The ability to take a superior car out and lay it on someone would be hard considering the sheeple that tend to crash our rooms. 

Runnin 3rd on Boomslang was a real treat in my Boss.  Who gets excited about 3rd anyway.  Heck whe we ran Nurberg I couldn't believe I was able to keep my B-class Panoz in 2nd.  Hell I only had 5 PI points to play with so technically it should have been a real handful.  That is unless the PI system isn't as flawed as most think.

Tonight, C-class Hotlapping begins in the IS right after a few changes in the Cuda.  I'll be aimin for the top of my friends leaderboard so Lands, Spiny, Blooze and company lookout.  I'll be chasing your times in a few hours.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2007, 05:04:22 PM »
Fit - I have a (IMO) pretty good 'Cuda tune.  I'll post it up in JEi tonight.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2007, 09:28:44 PM »
Trashed the build and started over with a stock car again.  I'm quite pleased with the results now.  Still not a top end monster but it has some low-end grunt and an apparent ability to pull through some serious gears when pushed.  I ran all of the Real World tracks to begin the assault on C-class. 

This is the first class that I have run up against some of the ghosts from a variety of races.  I've had to chase a plethora of ghost cars on all types of tracks.  Suprisingly I was able to beat my pre-wipe MkII time on several tracks.  The only ghost I couldn't catch was my M3 from a Maple Valley Long race I did not too long ago. 

C-class Realization-  This class is very fast.  Well the leaderboarders in this class are much farther ahead than the ones in D-class.  I thought that the Lexus was a shoe-in, now I'm second guessing it because I've been able to smear its ghost all over the track.  All of the IS ghosts are slower than the Cuda.  The Sprinter is going to hold its own, but I don't think its gonna be that much better than the gripier front and all wheel drives.  I still have high hopes but I'm coming to realize that the gap between the "fast" cars and the ones that I choose is pretty big.  The only saving grace is that there is only a small percentage of people that have gone on and completed all of the tracks with all of the classes.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2007, 10:24:27 PM »
Well I know the 'Cuda can hustle, and that IS seemed pretty fast yesterday!
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2007, 11:29:01 PM »
2/3 of the tracks are done with the Cuda and I have to say that no ghost is safe.  I've left every track with a new fast time.  I was amazed that I was able to beat my Lancia Delta around the snakes.  I'm really liking the way this car is working out.  I can't quite catch Bimmers Cuda but that's not the cars fault.  Next chance I get its time for the Reverse Originals.  Then to do it all over again with the IS and the Sprinter.  (Both of which got the TRD trans ratio's installed, what a difference!)
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2007, 12:48:22 PM »
Finished up C-class in the Cuda and it put me right around 180th.  The Cuda's lack of serious top end ranks it pretty low on New York and the Speedway.  Handles well enough to run well on a variety of tracks.  The IS should be marginally better than the Cuda and may even have it on top end.  I didn't think they were so evenly matched or I would have chosen differently.  The Sprinter is gonna be well on the Snakes and the short ribbons of the long tracks.  I expect to lose several seconds with these cars.  I hope to squeeze a minute or so out in an attempt to catch Blooze.

2 classes down, top 200 in both (upon completion), no leaderboard cars, all RWD, all no assists.  I would have been happy to be in the top 1000 under those circumstances.  Thanks for all the help guys, its workin out.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2007, 08:55:54 AM »
Very good!  :D

I need to take a harder look at my Scooby 'Cuda.  As soon as that Buck kid gets done with the MInc B cars I am going to have him start on the D and C class versions.

This should get interesting...

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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2007, 10:35:39 AM »
I think Fit's managed to turn the Sprinter into a serious Mongoose! ;D

In a 5 lapper on Black Mamba Reverse last night, he left my little 914 in the dust and chased down 1st place in a pretty good room, AND he did it wiihtout any assists!
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2007, 12:21:11 PM »
That Renault 5 was cookin.  If I had more laps I would have caught him but thankfully he put 2 wheels off and I got around clean.  That 113.666 was movin.  Just before the race I moved the Final drive from 4.30 to 4.35 to try and help with acceleration overall.  It helped!  I think I can start bumping it single digits till I begin to spin the wheels off the turns.  That little beast will be quite dialed in by the time I get to runnin it.

I was sizin up my IS vs Bufords on Sebring and I think I may take the advise and scrap the hood for lighter wheels.  I was just a tick off but it compounded over several laps.

The Sprinter build and Toon will be up this week so you guys can build one and whoop me with it.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2007, 09:01:19 PM »
Updated all the posts with the particulars of each car.  Feel free to poke holes or copy for your pleasure.  Just don't beat me too bad in the Sprinter.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2007, 11:41:28 PM »
Ran the first few Real World tracks in the IS300 tonight and I must say that I like this car.  Its not overly fast to drive but just like my truck IRL look down and your doing 100mph.  Its quiet, the tires don't squeel much, the trans spreads the revs out deceptively nice.  I've already dropped over 25 seconds on 6 tracks.   I tweeked the toon a tad but I can't exactly remember right now but I'll update soon.  I do remember changing the FD from 4.08 to 4.10, minor but I'm down to fine tooning, no more major changes.

More hotlapping to come, and I have several more ghosts to bust.

[sidenote]I was runnin tonight with Hop and a Champion named Cr3wide.  On Maple Valley Long he whipped out an Elise 135 and I was in my IS300, not an even match.  2 totally different cars, 2 very differently ranked drivers.  I had faster laps but I didn't force any issues so I finished just off his bumper with the ability to pass him on several occasions.  I didn't because I was warned that it wasn't going to happen easily and I prefer to finish with a faster time right up on the back bumper of someone than to wreck 2 cars.  Amazing feeling chasing down a leaderboard car in a Lexus[/sidenote]
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2007, 10:29:59 PM »
.....8:50AM Monday morning, Christmas Eve......

Spanky:  Thanks for comin in today Fit.  Don't expect to be too busy with the holiday and all.  Just one pick up and you can do whatever you want with the rest of the day.

Fit:  So have you made any progress with all of the suits that have been in and out of here?

Spanky:  You'd never believe what I had to do to make them happy enough to hand over the certification.  The corporate guys all wanted to have a conference room, main offices, and a structured accountability scale.  What do I know about accountability, its either done or it ain't.  Plus all the frilly, office crap will just take up space around here, heck you already gave up your office.  One good thing is that the suits took a liking to Ms Lynette and she calmed them down on a couple debates.  She sure has a knack for bringin coffee in, just at the right time.

Fit:  So your saying we got the Certifications?  That would be great.  I got a couple cars that would do good against some serious competition.  We just gotta run them through tech inspection and get the stickers installed.  We should be up and running in a couple days when they open tech again after the holidays.  What cars should we push through first??

Spanky:  Yeah, we got it.  Cost me a pretty penny so I couldn't get you a Christmas bonus, but I do have a suprise for ya, a present.  Its just outside the showroom door. 

As they walk out the showroom door a car is covered, familiar shape, but covered.  Spanky pulls back the cover to reveal a crisp and clean, fully detailed Stardust Camaro Z-28. ? ? ?

Fit:  with a puzzled look on his face points at the car and cocks his head to the side in confusion What the heck is this.  You can't re-gift a car.  We've had this car forever.  Its a good gift but......hmmm......thanks Spanky.  I really appreciate it.  This is great.  you can tell by the tone of his voice he's a bit disappointed.

Spanky:  Are you just gonna clammer on or do you want your gift?  Did you even notice whats different about the car, anything out of place or new. 

Spanky steps back and walks around the car, lookin around but starin back at Fit.  After about 2 full minutes he see's something out of place, something little but out of place.

Fit:  How did you get this through Tech Inspection already.  There's no certified tech inspection station except at Road Atlanta.  They've been shut down since last Friday.

Spanky:  Well thats the second part of the present.  Open the trunk, I think your gonna like this.

Fit opens the trunk and pulls out a rather large sign, simple but the glow on his face lets you know its just the right thing.  Plain, yellow background with a Black border.  Block text, and the words "IMSA Inspection Station #713"

Spanky:  See, not only are we a certified race facility but all the work you been doing in the paintshop made it more than adequate for their standards.  Your gonna be busy, but now you can officially inspect any race car for IMSA Tech, there's a box of cert stickers in there too.  Merry Christmas.  It goes into effect as of the first of the year.

Fit:  Aww, Spanky this is great.  I can't believe we got the full certification.  This is great.  Think of how much buisness this will generate.  I just can't believe it.

Spanky:  Just one catch, we can't inspect out own cars so your gonna have to wait till the track opens up.  Now go hang that sign and get out of here.  The latest email shows your still not done with you C-class Hotlaps.  Good job on the top 200 rank with the Cuda but that Lexus cost a pretty penny so you'd better improve it some.  We've gotta attract some bigger sponsors if we're gonna keep this thing afloat.  I'll need your score card and times from the latest challenge to present next week.

Well things are looking up around here.  The cars are coming through, inspections are on deck, and the shop is still in great condition.  A few good sponsors and we'll be set up to make a run at the higher classes any time now.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2007, 06:23:09 AM »
Good job on the Leaderboard.  That makes 9 guys from here that are in the top 500!  11 in the top 1000.  If ya think about it, at the rate this game is being distributed, the top 1000 is getting eliter and eliter everyday.

So how is this IMSA stuff going to work?  If I send you a car, will you inspect it and put the IMSA stickers on it and then send the car back to me?  What is the fee for such a service?

Tell Spanky I said to quit being such a grouchy ole fart and you all have a Merry Christmas!

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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2007, 11:06:06 PM »
I think I'm gonna get a couple of IMSA inspection decals together for my cars.  Moreso for my own personal progression but if anyone wants to play along I'd be happy to "inspect" and authenticate thier cars.   ;)

I even considered sending out a version of the Super Stock Series cars to anyone that wanted to participate with a Muscle Inc style vinyl and the IMSA tech inspection sticker.  Built, tooned (primarily) and ready to go.  I may need to start another poll.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2007, 02:18:04 PM »
Although it's pretty good in D class, I've built a new Sprinter for C. One thing that stood out was that it actually handled better with only the sport weight reduction. With the full treatment it almost felt like it was blowing away, constantly losing grip. I just finished up a B class Lexus, I think the car needs that much PI to come alive. That being said, it's currently my fastest RWD B car around Seca with an 89.6xx.

I used to mess around with the Cuda too, but I gave it up. The numbers suggest it being the best handling of the old muscle, especially when you add in the full aero package... the engine is way too lazy though. It could have been a winner with a smaller, less torquey powerplant.