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......9:30am Thursday morning.....

Johnny Rotten in half asleep in the break room, only slightly stirring to adjust his dentures.  Ms Lynette is clackin away at the keyboard and still getting aquainted with the drawing tablet, Spanky's on the phone in his office tryin to take a sip of his morning coffee between sentences, and Fit's outside preppin some cars for pick-up and photographing other for the Auction House.  

Spanky:  (hangs up the phone, stretches and heads out to the microwave)  dang coffee's already cold, figgers the longes phone calls come at the worst time.  Any calls Lynette?  

Ms Lynette:  Just one, Clyde called and said he was tied up on 695, somethin about idiot drivers.  Nothin else.

Spanky:  Strange, no customers, no calls, nothin.  Heck, if the showroom weren't already clean I'd wonder what I'm payin Johnny fer.

Ms Lynette: Just let 'im be.  If he's down there sleepin he aint up here tryin to look down my shirt.

Spanky glances downward, gets caught, and walks away embarrased.   :-[

Spanky: Hey Fit, hows the Garage Sale goin?  Looks like there's a bit more room back here now.

Fit: Yeah, there's quite a bit more room back here.  I didn't know we had half thee cars.  Its a new suprise everytime I pull a cover off.  I feel a bit rusty though, I used to be able to tell which car was which just by glancin back here.  Now half the time I don't know.

Spanky:  I couldn't tell ya what most 'a these cars are anyhow.  By the way, Clyde called and says he's gone be a little late.  (Look around)  Hope he ain't too late, this driveway's kinda cluttered.

Fit:  I can't move any more cars till the hauler comes......well speak of the devil.......(waves as Clyde pulls in the front lot and tries to turn around amongst the clutter.)

....for the next 30 minutes the lot is full of comotion as each car is loaded, V8 rumble, the hum of a Turbo 4 Cylinder, even the growl of a 10 cylinder disrupted the buisness park till all was replaced by the clakin of a Cummins Diesel haulin 'em off.....

Spanky: Wow, that made a bunch of space.  How many cars are left over in the back storage lot?

Fit:  I know all the Muscle cars are back there and I think there's a few still covered up back there.  Grab the keys and we'll take....ummm lets see...well you pick just not the Sagaris, no gas.

Spanky:  (Fires up a C5 Z06 and they head off)  So any luck on what your doin fer the next round of hotlapps?  I'm guessin yer done with the Solstice and the Shelby fer a bit.  Bein as you put 'em inside the storage gate.  What am I gonna be orderin parts fer next?  Oh, and the guys over at the ALMS Sanctioning want ya to finalize the racin color and design and number for the cars.  That's one of the 'quirements of our little 'rrangement with Panoz, team colors, uniforms, the whole bit.  Good thing they get the bill.

Fit:  Just pull up next to the fence.  I guess I took the muscles up to the paint shop.  There's only those 3 cars left.  Leave the 'vette here we'll walk back.  I can't decided what cars to prep for the next class, I been wadin in the ones we have and I can't decide.  I had a prospect but I'm not sure we ever had the car to begin with.

As they pull the covers off of the last 3 cars in the back lot the choice for C-class hotlappers presents itself.  Under the covers are 3 perfect candidates.   A 2003 Lexus IS300 (The Imigrant), a 1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula-S (The Native), and a 1985 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex (The Alternate).

Fit:  Well Spanky, I think we have our candidates.  Fits the shop requirements, RWD, one modern, one muscle.

Spanky: What about that 2-tone jobber?  Looks like scrap to me.

Fit: The Sprinter, that's not scrap, that's my old car.  I haven't driven this since I got the Esperante.  I'll follow ya back to the shop and bring the hauler back for the others.  Could you go and see what we have in the way of a TRD catalog, and wake Johnny up, we'll need his help on the Plymouth.

And the C-class hotlappers are decided on.  3 cars for this with the focus on the Lexus and the 'Cuda but being as I have NO C-class cars to run online in I'll build and toon the 'Yota as an alternate.  One more step in my journey to catch Blooze.  
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2007, 01:28:33 PM »
C-Class 2003 Lexus IS300


The Build
Engine Parts: Sport Ignition, Sport Block  241hp/245tq
Platform Parts: All Race with Sport Weight Reduction   2,945lbs
Tires and Wheels:
     Tire Type/Brand:  Racing Slicks by Pirelli 30% Discount
     Rim Style:  Motegi Racing "Touge"
     Rim Width: 215/35-19 Stock Width
Spoilers and Diffusers: Full Forza Body Kit w/ Stillen Side Skirts, and C-West Street Hood

The Toon
Tire Pressure: 
     Front:  29psi
     Rear:29psi
Gearing:
     Final Drive:  3.61
     (1-6): 3.25, 2.10, 1.56, 1.23, 1.01, 0.86
Alignment:
     Camber Front:  -1.0
     Camber Rear:  -0.7
     Toe Front: +0.1
     Toe Rear:  -0.2
     Caster: 5.0
Anti Sway Bars:
     Front:  9.41
     Rear:  11.28
Springs:
     Front:  557.5 lb/in
     Rear:  465.8 lb/in
Dampers:
     Rebound Front:  7.2
     Rebound Rear:  5.9
     Bound Front:  3.6
     Bound Rear:  3.0
Aero Adjustment:
     Splitter (Ft):  50lbs
     Spoiler (Rr):  60lbs
Brake Bias:
     Bias:  47%
     Pressure:  100%
Differential:
     Acceleration:  40%
     Deceleration:  55%

The car feels a bit underpowered but it handle very well IMO.  It drive heavy but there is no way to make it lighter and stay in C-class.  I've ran a couple of track as sort of an on the fly QR and was pleased overall at Laguna and Suzuka East.  More testing is needed but I think its getting close.  Feel free to poke holes in the build or toon as they aren't set in stone or track proven yet.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2007, 01:28:52 PM »
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Formula-S


The Build
Engine Parts: Sport Cams, Sport Block
Platform Parts:  Full Race w/ Sport Weight Reduction
Tires and Wheels:
     Tire Type/Brand: Stock Tires
     Rim Style: 17" Stock
     Rim Width: 245/45R17
Spoilers and Diffusers:  Full Aero

The Toon
Tire Pressure:
     Front: 29
     Rear: 29
Gearing:
     Final Drive:  3.55
     (1-6):  2.66, 1.91, 1.39, 1.10, 0.90, 0.76
Alignment:
     Camber Front: -1.0
     Camber Rear: -0.5
     Toe Front: +0.1
     Toe Rear: -0.2
     Caster: 5.0
Anti Sway Bars:
     Front: 9.43
     Rear: 11.34
Springs:
     Front: 570.3
     Rear: 475.8
Dampers:
     Rebound Front: 7.7
     Rebound Rear: 6.5
     Bound Front: 3.9
     Bound Rear: 3.3
Aero Adjustment:
     Splitter (Ft): 55
     Spoiler (Rr): 75
Brake Bias:
     Bias: 47%
     Pressure: 100%
Differential:
     Acceleration:  40%
     Deceleration:  55%
« Last Edit: December 17, 2007, 08:53:29 PM by Fit4aking »
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2007, 01:29:10 PM »
1985 Toyota Sprinter Trueno Apex


The Build
Engine Parts:  Street Intake, Sport Exhaust, Sport Fuel
Platform Parts:  Full Race Platform w/ Race Weight Reduction
Tires and Wheels:
     Tire Type/Brand:  Pirelli Slicks
     Rim Style:  TechArt Daytona's
     Rim Width: 225/40R16
Spoilers and Diffusers:  Full Aero

The Toon
Tire Pressure:
     Front: 29
     Rear: 29
Gearing:
     Final Drive:  4.40
     (1-6):  2.63, 1.89, 1.38, 1.08, 0.91, 0.79
Alignment:
     Camber Front: -1.0
     Camber Rear: -0.6
     Toe Front: +0.1
     Toe Rear: -0.2
     Caster: 5.0
Anti Sway Bars:
     Front: 9.57
     Rear: 11.42
Springs:
     Front:  315.6
     Rear:  263.6
Dampers:
     Rebound Front:  7.4
     Rebound Rear:  6.3
     Bound Front:  3.7
     Bound Rear:  3.1
Aero Adjustment:
     Splitter (Ft): 50
     Spoiler (Rr): 75
Brake Bias:
     Bias: 47%
     Pressure: 100%
Differential:
     Acceleration:  35%
     Deceleration: 55%

Initial impression is WOW.  Full weigth reduction, full width slicks, and full aero.  Its no wonder this car is as close to a 'cheater' as I care to be.  A bit low on power though but I did have enough PI left to up the hp and the torque a midge.  I was suprised how much a PI hit adding power was.  I guess with all that tire and low weight power would make a huge difference.  I can also see why this car doesn't populate higher classes.  Its widest tire is only a 225, not the best for putting big power numbers down.  Driving it feels like a gripier version of the Solstice, still underpowered though.  As of now only the trans has been tooned.  High final drive, low top speed and plenty of high rev fun lies in wait for this little wonder.

Hail the TRD 5-speed.  This car is a wonder to drive on the short tracks.  What it lacks in top end it makes up for in grip and handling.  I'm very pleased with the progression of this gem.  More C-class fun lies ahead for this baby.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2007, 12:11:48 AM »
IS300 Grip build complete.  Very basic toon installed but the car isn't quite right for lappin yet.  I was scootin around Mugello Short on the stock trans gearing at just under 123 seconds.  Not great but not as bad as it could be for a RWD sedan.  It does drive well and although it feels underpowered the torque pulls through even the low gears it has in it at the moment.

I'm still undecided as to how to go about balancing the build.  I have slicks and weight reduction but no extra width.  I may try moving down a tire grade and pickin up width for a comparo.  Heck I have a bunch to do for a comparo, then its on to catch Blooze on the boards.

Ooops: Not 123 seconds but a fastest initial time of 82.998 seconds, what can I say it was late  :-[
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2007, 09:28:05 AM »
Mugello Short on the stock trans gearing at just under 123 seconds.  Not great but not as bad as it could be for a RWD sedan.


Not bad, just terrible :P I assume you mean Mugello Long.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2007, 10:05:08 PM »
.......Saturday Morning, fully staffed shop, and Johnny ain't happy......

Johnny Rotten:  Spanky ya know dern well we suposta be off on tha weekens.  I should be in my easy chair flippin channel 'bout now.

Spanky:  Fit's gonna be pullin up some cars and we have to get the shop ready for inspection Monday mornin.  Soon as its all straight and these cars are parked we'll talk about goin home.  Here's the keys to the side door, Johnny, open 'er up so we can git these cars out to the storage lot.

Ms Lynnette:  Sorry I'm late boys, stopped off for coffee.  (Holds up a Dunkin Donuts bag, and a Box-o-Joe)  Where do you want me to get started Spanky, windows, the breakroom, your office.

Johnny Rotten:  (leans over close to Spanky) I bet she'd be able to clean "under" your desk.  Wink Wink

Spanky: You cut it out Johnny, she hears you and yer in trouble.  (turn back to Lynette)  Why don't you get started in the office, I need to get  it ready b'fore the windo's and such.

........3 hours pass, Johnny leaves first (even before lunch), Ms Lynette heads out right after the showroom is finished, Fit and Spanky hang around to finish with the details.......

Fit:  That just about does it.  Bet you didn't think you'd be out of your own office so soon.  Looks kinda official as a conference room though.

Spanky:  Well your the one losing an office, I'm just relocating.  I'm not used to seeing the showroom this empty.  It looks huge in here with only 2 cars.  You sure we shouldn't bring the 'Cuda in?  It might look better to have all 3 cars ready for show.

Fit:  No, I think we've got everything as it should be.  All 3 stages of toon.  A stock car for baseline testing.  A painted car platformed but not finished.  And a complete car ready for the first rounds of hotlapping.  You should see the paintshop, its all straightend, sorted, and it nearly looks functional as a machine shop.  Just wish we had a better idea of what the people from IMSA are really lookin for.  All the letter says is: "prepare facilities for inspection, provide vehicles for scrutineering, provide examples of team colors, and proof of at least one primary sponsor."  We have all of that ready.  Any idea what time they're gonna show up?

Spanky:  I just hope they show up b'fore y'all get to eatin the breakfast spread I have showin up.  Last I heard they would be here in the mornin and could stay mosta the day.  Don't think we're gettin much else done, but that approval sticker'll e worth it.

Fit:  Who would of guessed the next step would take so much work.  The last round we ran was nothin compared to this.  These cars really aren't that much different but the licensing, sponsors, sanctioning approval, and what the hell is scrutineering.  All this better turn into more prize money if you ask me.

Spanky: (sliding the last of 8 chairs around a new table) Looks like were all done here.  Wanna head down to the Phoenix and grab a bite?  Wife's not 'spectin me till later.

Fit:  You know, I'd love to.  We haven't been to the Phoenix in months.  Think that waitress still works the window section?  Heck I'll even drive.

.....Monday's shapin up to be a rather important day.  Spanky's Speedshop could finally get that IMSA approval sticker for the cars and the front door.......
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2007, 01:47:13 AM »
Oh man, having the shop all cleaned up and organized...

I can only dream.

Another week and I can get started on it.  Ole Eph and Willis are looking forward to it too.  They aren't normally to big on organized and neat and orderly - but this Leaderboard and Career push has been hard on everybody.

Good luck with the inspection...

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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2007, 09:53:56 PM »
If you want to pick up a smidge of accel, I would dump the hood and check on lighter wheels. It will help out like a lightweight flywheel does.

But I like the Togue's anyways. I almost pray that one of my J cars end up with a small PI gap to fill with those wheels.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2007, 11:41:53 PM »
I went over the build and drove it some more, online and in freerun.  I was convinced that the car was a turd.  However I ran it up against some competition the other night and even though it was PI'd last in every room I was in the front pretty easily.  Even on the power tracks it held its own on the twisties.  Several tracks really had me worried, heck most of the competition had me worried, (Spiny, Qmole, and company) but suprisingly the car did great.

The Sprinter is another story, it has a butt-ton of grip, excellent acceleration, but no top end.

I built out a grip tune Cuda tonight and I don't think its a bunch faster than the IS.  I'm not gonna missle build it but I was hoping it would make up on the longer tracks.  Its not tooned yet and I hope gearing wakes it up.

My little trio should have enough to cover all the bases.  The Sprinter for the short tracks, the IS for the intermediates and as an all around fill in, and the Cuda for the power tracks or longer intermediates.  A real well rounded bunch as long as I can get them tooned well.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2007, 01:50:56 PM »
That IS looked a pretty good car for C-Class - certainly a match for just about everything i could throw at it apart from maybe the cowcar. The Sprinter looked good on the twisty stuff, but I was surprised you ran it at Sebring. Paint on both looked awesome (as yours always do).

I just wish that my Xbox hadn't crapped out on me for King Cobra - my favourite track and it does the garage trick for the first time ever - I was not impressed >:(
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2007, 02:19:12 PM »
I wanted a baseline on the sprinters ability to make up for lack of speed using handling.  I was able to catch some of you on the front section but the backstretch was a laugh.  I could even pull back up through the last sweeper but had no chance of accelerating to the line.

I think the three of them will make a nice set of C-classers.  I just hope my Cuda can hang with TJN's.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2007, 03:56:26 PM »
Ya know now that I finally got ahead of Blooze in D class the next logical step for hot lapping for me would be C class.  My main C car has been the CR-X but I think I'll try the Cuda also.  I built that car a while back so I'm not totally sure but I think I just put a standard 54.5% Blooze tune on it with full aero package.  I don't remember what tires I put on it.  After our initial online races yesterday I took a bit of the downforce off.  Much more tooning and lapping on it are in order.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2007, 04:26:09 PM »
As of now I have weight reduction and wide factory tires.  The upgraded compounds ate up a bunch of PI.  Unfortunately that lead to stock HP and TQ.  I figured I would try the "grip" build before any compromise.  I drove it in default toon and its not much faster on the oval than my IS.  I was hoping for more.  Like you said more testing follows.
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Re: The Imigrant, the Native, and the Alternate. (C-class Hotlappers)
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2007, 05:01:10 PM »
I have a tune on a C-Class Cuda I can send you later.  I used narrow Y-Rated tires with a cam kit, if memory serves - the Cuda has no top end at all.  A 'Stang or Camaro might serve you better.
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