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[FM2] Supercars Racing Series (Previously S-Class Thunder!)
« on: October 22, 2007, 07:25:02 AM »
I was building up an S-Class contender from each of my favorite manufacturers. My short list:

Ferrari F40
Jaguar XJ220
Ford GT
Viper Competition Coupe
Corvette C6 Z06
Porsche (maybe one of the 911 variants or the Carrera GT)

and a couple of Japanese cars that I haven't thought of yet. When built out to S998, the cars above all came out pretty close. There are a few that I haven't included that would probably do extremely well, but I'm not sure they would be good for balance. Cars like the Enzo, Pagani, CLK-GTR and Saleen haven't been considered thus far, so it might not be that bad, but my fear is that they will outclass everything else.

Basically I love the idea of the supercars from the major manufacturers throughout history doing battle with cars descended from the greats. The lack of history could be reason enough to exclude the Pagani and the Saleen...

I originally got interested in S-Class because my Ferrari F40 couldn't fit into A-Class. The lowest it will go is PI 851 dadgummit! So I went ahead and built it out for S-Class and was rewarded with a pretty darned decent car for its class. I started thinking of other cars that needed a home for one reason or another. The Jaguar XJ220 doesn't work in  anything lower than S so I built it next. It posted numbers VERY close to the F40. To complete the European collection I built out a Porsche 959 and discovered again that it isn't really good at much of anything.

Disappointed, I decided to bump the Ford GT that I had squeezed into A-Class up into S-Class. The numbers were again VERY close to the F40. To me, this was appealing because the GT40 was developed specifically to kick dirt in Ferrari's face. It was only appropriate that the new Ford GT set its sights squarely on the prancing horse, just like it's daddy so many decades ago.

A few days after that flurry of builds I got sick of American people telling me that all American cars are crap, so I built out a few more contenders from the states. The latest model Viper, the Viper Competition Coupe, the C5 Z06 and the C6 Z06. The GTS ACR Viper had already found a home in A-Class. The latest model Viper doesn't look the part of a GT race car with it's rag-top, but does post impressive numbers. The nicest thing about it is that, unlike the Competition Coupe, it offers adjustable aero. The Comp Coupe obviously should have adjustable aero, but c'est la vie.

The C5 Z06 is currently an A-Class experiment with promising results. I can't drive it all that fast, but it's got the potential. The C6 Z06 is probably my only S-Class build riding on stock wheels. It just doesn't take much for this car to go over 998, so I had to look for points wherever I could. I haven't put much seat time into either car, but everything is in the right place and pointing to strong performance.

What worries me is that the heavies of S-Class are going to make my experiments look sub-par. I consider the heavies to include:

Saleen S7
Mercedes CLK-GTR
Pagani Zonda C12
Ferrari Enzo

I think I've finally got the above unlocked so I'll be building examples out soon.




Bimmer's edit: Here is the set of restrictions we currently have set up.

Supercars

The Cars:
Ferrari F40
Lamborghini Diablo GTR
Pagani Zonda

Mercedes SLR
BMW M3 GTR
Porsche Carrera GT

Ford GT
Viper Competition Coupe
Shelby Series One

Honda NSXR-GT
Nissan R390

Jaguar XJ220
TVR Sagaris

Koenigsegg CC8S

The Regulations:
Cars must have a PI of S998 or below.
Cars must use Slicks (Racing level tire upgrade)
Cars must remain RWD.

« Last Edit: October 15, 2009, 07:33:23 PM by bimmerlovere39 »
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2007, 08:06:39 AM »
I'd love to see such a league formed...

but how could you forget the M3 GTR?  :-\
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2007, 08:09:45 AM »
Send me one and I'll reconsider... ;D
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2007, 08:10:51 AM »
I'll do it as soon as I get on tonight!
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2007, 08:22:44 AM »
I'm not optimistic about the Carrera GT. I built one a loooong time ago and was unimpressed. I'm pretty sure that the strongest contender from Porsche would be an AWD Cayman, but there are enough of those around already and the 911 has a MUCH stronger racing heritage. It's hard to say the Cayman qualifies as a 'Supercar' when the original platform was specifically designed to be the 'cheap' porsche (such a thing is only possible if you compare them to the Italians...g)

The late model 911s are all strong, even the 'lowly' 997 T. A rear engined AWD car is poetry in motion.   
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2007, 08:28:46 AM »
Yeah... I'd go with the 997 GT3 RS in a split second... if we could be sure everyone had it...

I'd go with the GT3, as that is the one with most of the modern racing heritage.  Of course, a Turbo could be related to a 935...
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2007, 08:50:03 AM »
I (regretably) have to get to class... I should be able to come back to the forum around 1.

This series will be a blast once we get it running.
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2007, 04:57:31 PM »
Hop, check PMs
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2007, 06:06:55 AM »
Hoplee,

Why not try the Koeniggsegg?
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2007, 06:39:57 AM »
Would love to try the Koenigsegg but I'm a little short on $$. Got an extra? ;D

I built out a Carrera GT and an M3 GTR to S998 last night and ran some test laps on Sebring Short. The F40, Carrera GT, Ford GT and M3 GTR all posted lap times within half a second of each other. The F40 came out on top, but it's the one I have the most seat time in so that may have something to do with it.

The Carrera GT was a little annoying at first until I tried to drive it like a 911. By making sure I could stay on the throttle after the apex I started having a lot more fun in the corners.

The M3 GTR felt really pedestrian after all the supercars I'd been driving. It's the only one based on a passenger car and just didn't look the part. That didn't keep it from running a decent time however! The M3 GTR felt like an AWD car in the corners. It was extremely stable and easy to drive consistently. The upside is that I finally have a BMW to race. The downside is that it's not that exciting, at least not to me.

I'm avoiding the CLK-GTR and Saleen on purpose. I'll probably build them last to use as reference/benchmarks. Next on the short list of cars I want to build is the SLR. The SLR, Carrera GT and Enzo all hit the market around the same time and a rivalry is unavoidable. They'll make good running mates for the Ford GT unless the Enzo turns out to be a true monster.
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2007, 06:42:25 AM »
Trust me.  The GTR can get really exciting, really fast.  lol

I just don't think the Enzo, Carrera GT, Saleen, and CLK-GTR will play well with others. Shame.

About the Koenig: where does it start, PI wise?
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2007, 06:45:55 AM »
You might want to reconsider your assessments. Run some laps to get an idea of what a good time is on Sebring Short. My Carrera GT couldn't catch the F40 and was nowhere near as easy to drive in the twisties. I agree that the CLK-GTR and Saleen may be competition killers, but I don't know enough about the Enzo yet and I honestly haven't built out the Saleen or CLK-GTR.

My $$ are hurting from all the research! ::)
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2007, 06:51:38 AM »
Hm...

I'll take a look at 'em... later.  lol.

Think of it this way: you have... well... yeah... you're going broke.  haha

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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2007, 07:02:03 AM »
Many thanks, Hop.
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Re: S-Class Thunder!
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2007, 08:10:03 AM »
KOENIGGSEGG CC8S Stats:

PI: 908
PWR: 578
TRQ: 553

SPD: 8.2
ACC: 7.0
BRK: 5.2
HND: 5.3
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