The Bench (Old)

[Blooze]

There is the place were the "client" (you) should be responcible for your own data.  You track your times on Maple Valley in C Class.  If You want to try 30 different cars to see which one runs it best, it falls to you to keep track of their times.

They already have a record that has a three key unique index, user, track, class.  Adding a fourth would seriously hamper the system.

What is wrong with tracking your own times?

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I think what you are wanting is for them to keep track of such that if anybody ever ran a PT Cruiser on the track, there would be a record of it.  Sounds "Big Brother"-ish to me...

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[Ske]

I see the point. It would be a lot easier to document or verify unofficial HLCs, arrange a qualifying session for a race league or something like that if the scoreboard would store more than one entry per track/class. I don't mind relying on good old fashioned honesty around here, but the less "personal" communities could benefit a lot.

It would be a welcome feature in my eyes, but I doubt it will work like that. Realistically I think the filters are there to make it easier to sift through the existing scoreboards.

What could work is adding an option to "upload this time to the scoreboards", like you get when taking a picture in-game. Of course with limited slots available per player/class/track. Your best time would always be there, unable to be overwritten, but you could have 2 or 3 rewriteable hotlap entries on top of that... if I'm making sense 

[fndrbndr]

That does make sense.  Good idea, Ske.  I've wondered about this problem with sortable leaderboards since the idea came up.  I can disallow all assists, multiplayer, and the scoreboard cars and convince myself that I'm #14 in the world.  Too bad there are only 28 people who play the game the way I do. lol

[Blooze]

One thing that would help is if in the next iteration of the game they support User Generated Tournaments.  That would house much of the data you are talking about.

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[fndrbndr]

An even better idea.  And a lot of fun, since we could have our own muscle, inc. tourneys.

[TheJohnNewton]

I guess I'm not explaining myself very well.  Tracking my own times is not an issue.  For me I'll just run the car to see what times I can run.  I have full control over that.  What I want to know is everyone elses times, and here is the important thing to me, IN THE SAME CAR.  If the data is not there to support it then the new filters are nearly worthless to me.

So yes if a person were to run a pt cruiser store their best time in the pt crusier.  If they beat that time by 20 seconds in a mugen then store that time as well but don't replace their pt cruiser time unless they beat it in a pt cruiser.  I can't say if they have the horsepower to support the additional data and key but it seems rather silly to me to go to all the trouble of adding a filter if the data isn't there to support it.

[Blooze]

I got it.  What will also happen is that every throw away lap in a new car, say just to test drive it, or install a set of slicks on a Lambo to take care of the Bull event, all those laps are stored as well.

Well we will see.  As of now, unless they patch the app, you are bound to be disappointed.

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[TheJohnNewton]

Well we will see.  As of now, unless they patch the app, you are bound to be disappointed.
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It won't be the first, or last time, lol

[TheTechnobear]

yeah, i think its gonna be limited too...

but think every lap would cause data volume issues, but they could have used other techniques
e.g. letting friends sync local scoreboards, ? i.e. think about using distributed/peer-peer techniques rather than just good ol' client server approach. 

anyways, its better than what we have currently, and perhaps it will may them rethink for FM3

[Fit4aking]

As long as I can filter driveline type, and assists, I'll be happy.  Seeing where I land among the other RWD's is gonna be an eye opener for me. 

[TheJohnNewton]

As long as I can filter driveline type, and assists, I'll be happy.  Seeing where I land among the other RWD's is gonna be an eye opener for me. 

You mean the other people who just happen to have their best times in a rwd's   See this is my issue.  If they offer the filter with incomplete data IMO they are giving false results.  If our assumptions are correct then there will be so many holes in the data the results of using the new filters are effectively meaningless.  As an IT person I personally would not release something like that.

Of course our assumptions could be wrong in which case I would be very happy with the new filters.  Here's hopeing!

[DirtDriver]

Oh no, Newt is a geek, too...how did I miss that?

But I definitely see your, point, TJN. Data needs to be meaninful, not trivial.

DD

[TheJohnNewton]

One Homo Sapien Geekus here.  Where's the smily with the nerd glasses?  I've been paid to do geeky things way longer than Bimmers been on the earth but then I got underwear older than Bimmer

[JG4tr]

Yikes, don't go flyin' those on a flagpole!

[Blooze]

Early morning footsteps echo through the shop as I make my way in the dark.  I hope I remember where everything was - I hate starting the day with a barked shin bone.  One of these days I will put a light switch by the side door so I don't have to go through this crap every morning.

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Every morning.  Well, most mornings.  Things have been a little slow around here as of late.  It isn't so much that real life has reared its head as I found that I had a need to search one out.  Much to my chagrin, I keep waking up alive, and not knowing how long this condition is going to last I've decided to try to do a little better about making use of the time.

For some reason the verses in the Bible concerning servants who've made little of what was given them keeps clattering around in my head.  There is the music, the writing, and the system analysis.  Perhaps the ability to engender trust, and to lead.  Those are my own (hopefully) objective, personal observations, things that I feel I am accountable for, and in some fashion will be held accountable at some time.

So, off I have gone to practice my guitar.  Lots.  And organize my guitar collection.  And my repretoire.

The writing.  I still ponder that.  I have trouble with the idea of "Just write" - I seem to need a purpose, and a deadline.  Without either, I sit and ponder...  but I know I need to do something about it, so I sit and ponder it a lot.

And there is my health.  Mostly I figure it is on its own.  My thoughts have been that health concerns are for those who wish to stick around.  Since my wife died, my desire to continue with this portion of eternity has evaporated.  Now that is a piss-poor attitude at best.  But it occurs that there are things like quality of life, and not being a burden to my already over-burdened daughter.  So I acquiesce - and am searching out exercise in the fresh air - golf, yard chores... those sorts of things.  Jogging and lifting weights is most definitely not in my future.

However, I have found that T-totaling in any fashion doesn't fit me well.  Fanaticism irks me.  So there is Forza time.  Just not as much.

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...so this morning I make my way to the office, and squint my eyes against the flourescent lights.  Dusty.  Rinse out the coffee pot and get a pot started.  Holy hell, look at the mail that is stacked on my desk.  Time to take care of some of the correspondense...

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