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Re: Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit - DLC on Tuesday
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2010, 01:48:18 AM »
Woa, 102 and a bit. Good start! 8)
Submitted my time. You really have to place confidence in the vehicle to extract a faster time. Late braking. At low speeds through turns, find the threshold speed and don't even look at the accelerator funny. Most high speed turns can be navigated in fourth gear.

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Re: Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit - DLC on Tuesday
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2010, 12:08:51 PM »
Well, I got er down to 101.732 - 1.8 seconds to go...

I'm runnin' such that after the second lap I got both ghosts in my face - it sort of confuses the issue, but then it does make me strive for open "air"...

The car doesn't rotate very well so the Hammerhead section (Turn 2 complex?) is giving me fits...

I've been shuffled to the back pretty quickly - Dirt is leading the parade on my friends list, But Fit, Spiny, Barumba and everyone else is ahead of me as well...

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Re: Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit - DLC on Tuesday
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2010, 12:17:58 PM »
Ya, I saw that time this AM, Choccy, 97.xxx. Good job. Blooze, I found that first left-right chicane was giving me fits, too. Found that late breaking got me too far off the line, as this car tends to under steer, and couldn't get the right line. Costs at least a second. With a better line here, it can really affect the time. Still some work to do, for sure. Now, off to the the DTM on SPEED.
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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2010, 12:23:13 PM »
LOL - yeah, and Danika is on after that...

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« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2010, 12:28:05 PM »
Well, as you can see I got hold of it today. Wasn't going to bother, then was told about one of the catalogue shops over here having a coupon offer where you got £20 off your first order. And they were doing 2100 points for £24 (which is pretty expensive) but with the coupon it came out at £4 so I went for it. Means the track cost 75p or so rather than the £4+ it was shaping up for so I went for it.

Initial impressions are that this track really shows the curse of the constant radius corners inflicted in the '70's. The first bit built a few years back looks good for racing on, if a bit slow. Then you get to the rest and the corners are, well, boring. Still, I do quite like this track, good but not great is my verdict. Now, all I need to do is get the stadium section - dread to think how much time I'm losing in there.
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Re: Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit - DLC on Tuesday
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2010, 12:51:57 PM »
LOL - yeah, and Danika is on after that...

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I'm dreading that. When she is on track in IRL, that's all you hear... D this and D that. The NASCAR guys drive me nuts already, so this is going to be unbearable. We should take a poll as to how many times they mention her name during the broadcast, I figure at least a hundred. ;D

Then of course, she will probably take herself and at least four other cars out of the race early, if her IRL history is any indicator.
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Re: Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit - DLC on Tuesday
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2010, 07:42:58 PM »
I ran around it for about 15 laps before I was disgusted with the car and needed a break.  Then I looked at the leaderboard and saw that only 3 of the top 100 times were set WITHOUT traction control and didn't feel so bad about my lackluster performance.  I doubt I'll put too much effort into it.  With all of the teams and such it isn't difficult to see that the same issue I had in FM2 is back in FM3.  Unless I can get deep into the field I have no hope as most of team VVV won't even set a time until the last day, then the race is on for the rest of the hold outs to beat them.  By the time its all over the racing teams and hotlap squads easily take all the top 100 or so spots with a few outliers here and there.  I'd rather try and win a round of chutes and ladders with my 4 year old than chase hotlap glory. 

.......maybe if all the people on the .net that swore they were leaving actually left I'd have a shot.
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Re: Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit - DLC on Tuesday
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2010, 08:14:44 PM »
After a few frustrating laps this AM, not getting the turn-ins the way I wanted, I turned on the Line assist. I still had trouble following the green line, missing the turn in due to brutal under steer. My braking was way off, possibly because I drive with manual, no clutch. What I mean is, the differential decel lock might be killing me when I down shift, and I have no way of tuning that out of the car. I struggle with slowing down sooner, but maybe this is a case, with this car, that slow in-fast out is definitely the way to go. Just figuring out how to do that is driving me nuts.
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2010, 09:07:50 AM »
I guess the general consensus is that the car is a bigger issue than the new track.  That is my opinion as well.

What I am trying to get down right now is a deep and wide entry then really lay the wood to 'er on the way out - late apex?   Anyhow, when I get that done I always either stay even with or gain on my ghost.  The problem is how wide, and how deep, and then remaining consistent with it.  I wish I could get on the track with a can of spray paint - I'd mark me some Xs...

I managed another .1xx off my time this morning.  So far I have reduced my time by 4.210 seconds since starting this project.  That says something - mostly that I needed to know the track better, I think.

Every time I go out though, the goal of breaking the 100 second mark looks further and further from the rhelm of possibility.  I've implemented a sub-goal, if you will.  Right now I'd be pleased as punch to break into the 100.999 time zone.  That will take another .566 and I don't know if I got it in me...

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Re: Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit - DLC on Tuesday
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2010, 01:29:22 PM »
Well, I gave up on the "stock" set-up and jumped into the Pug in my paddock. It is the exact same car as the one in the Time Trial, no add-ons, but I did throw a tune at it. I managed to get down to 101.398

I did a bit more tweaking with toe, to assist in turn in. Got to 100.332, BUT I WAS IN TEST DRIVE! I have not been able to duplicate it in Hot Lap. Oh, well. You snooze you lose. I am taking a break for some Daytona 500 laps. Talk to you guys later.
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Re: Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit - DLC on Tuesday
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2010, 03:08:49 PM »
Recess :D
So, after having satisfied my need to get some sort of turn in response with my tunable Pug, I figured, OK. You' ve been to school, happy boy, so what have you learned. Well, I went back to the Time Trial car, un-tuned, and applied what I had learned with the tuned Pug from my paddock. The biggest difference, well, two of them, were...
1. Keep well left (edge of track) at the end of the SF straight to turn one, full throttle then start to brake and down shift to 1st at the first black marker on the left after the bridge, cut the pylon by just a whisker and hammer it to turn two. The key, keep well left to set this up.
2. Second gear through 2 to the S's, set up wide right, edge of track, down to 1st and cut the back of the curb (late apex) in turn three, apply what the F1 guys call a flick, as soon as you have clipped the curb on the back of 3 immediately turn hard right and catch the back of the curb in turn four (another late apex), hard on the throttle to the outside curb, trust the grip. This flick will happen almost automatically, there is so little distance between 3 and 4 that the natural roll of the car will help it set up for the second quick turn out of 4. This manoeuvre will take about 2 seconds off the lap.
I got down to 100.589 in the stock Time Trial Pug, that's down from my original best post of 103.635 way back on the 12 of Feb.
Not bad, 48 hours to net about 3 seconds, God I love this game!  :)
 
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Re: Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit - DLC on Tuesday
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2010, 03:59:02 PM »
Hey guys!  If you have bought the Track Pack, go and run the Time Trial they have set up for it.  It will get you a free car with a fairly cool paint job on it...

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Ok, Blooze, you must be blessed.
I have not seen any free car with any kind of paint job.

 >:(I don't see no stinking car! >:(  :P
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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2010, 06:08:11 PM »
I am blessed but not with Speed.
and I am blessed but not with Luck.
I am blessed 'cause I can read...

From Che's part of the Week in Review report.
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...Keep in mind that the Time Trial will remain open until 12PM PST, Tuesday, 2/16. Everyone will receive their gift cars and credits by Wednesday 2/17.

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Thanks for the Toon - I'll check it out after I get done thrashing away at that time trial.  

That's about how I am trying to deal the race (I don't know about the "flicks"  - usually I try to stay off the stumble strips).

Right now I am watching the proof that the American infrastructure is going to hell in a handbasket... The Great American Race - 1 hour of racing, 2 hours of patching pavement...

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Re: Nürburgring Grand Prix Circuit - DLC on Tuesday
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2010, 10:04:51 AM »
Well, I got in on this one, Blooze. Broke into the 98 second range after some effort. I can't manage the brakes on this beast and that is causing me to do everything backwards, particularly jabbing at both peddles. I end up too deep, claw my way out of corners and then end up hitting the next braking zone too hot. It's all in brake management for me at this point. Can't improve anything else until I can improve that.

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« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2010, 10:21:24 AM »
I saw that - Holy Smokes!  When did you get so fast... ;D

I don't think any of us schroo with the R1 cars enough to ever get comfortable with them.

I still got a couple days - maybe there is a miracle left in these old bones yet...

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