New Forza; New Year; First Challenge

[Blooze]

Well alrighty then.  Here it is.  Actually it sort of got dropped in my lap when Fit and I tied over on the Mountain.  For those of you un-aware, I started a series of cars that more or less emulates the British Touring Car Championship cars and a few other folks have been messing with them as well.

So for the first challenge we'll have a few other firsts.

Fancy little foreigne looking cars that make smoke on the front tires.  This is the BTCC spec and rather than repeat it here, I offer this link...  

http://forza-tuning.net/index.php/topic,1309.msg22170.html#msg22170

That should explain it pretty well, and just to make sure... we are talking about the B Class FWD Hatchbacks.  Please don't build to the S2000 spec and claim confusion.

And for a track, how about the New Kaido P2P, both the New Uphill, and the New Downhill so we don't get unbalanced.  

A leaderboard will also be supplied for the QR times if any of you care to run them - some of us do by default when we're building.

We'll also have a livery challenge to go with this one.  They can be actual or fantasy, but should be in the spirit of the BTCC race cars.

This all starts immediately, and will run through Sunday the 24^th ( 01/24/10 )  Hopefully that will give everybody enough time.

Now for me, that mountain is not in Japan, but in the North Central part of the State.  There's cool little Ski Town at the bottom of the pass, one hell of a party town.  There's a bar near the entrance to the Ski Area, it's a hell of a party place too.  In the summer there is some excellent fishing on the river and a resevoir near the top of the pass.  And there is the road.  There are a couple of organized races throughout the summer and fall, and there are any number of impromptu races when ever a couple of clowns get the wild hair to see who and get to the top the fastest, or beat the other guy off the mountain.

Have some fun with this,

Leaderboards
Quick Rank

Driver	Car	Atl II	Seb II	Tsukuba	QR
Blooze	SEAT Leon Supercup	59.765	80.247	59.903	199.915
Blooze	Peugeot 207	60.323	79.871	59.790	199.984
Silvo 1981	Renault Clio RS	61.145	80.127	59.554	200.826
Blooze	Vauxhall Astra VXR	60.804	80.202	59.905	200.911
Blooze	06 Ford Focus ST	61.070	79.883	60.451	201.404
Blooze	Volvo C30 R	61.854	79.692	59.978	201.524
Blooze	09 Ford Focus RS	61.732	80.587	60.345	202.664
Blooze	Citroen C4 VTS	62.262	81.153	60.653	204.068

Up and Down Times

Driver	Car	New UH	New DH	Total
Silvo 1981	Renault Clio RS	290.174	279.513	569.687
Open2nd	Ford Focus RS	293.488	278.406	571.894
Blooze	SEAT Leon SC	291.607	284.218	575.825
Blooze	SEAT Leon CUPRA	292.693	284.050	576.743
Spiny Anteater	Vauxhall Astra	295.846	280.941	576.787
Feuerdog	Volvo C30 R	294.935	282.616	577.551
Blooze	Vauxhall Astra	293.176	284.468	577.644
Blooze & Barumba	SEAT Leon CUPRA	294.728	285.451	580.179
RenoWrench	Honda Civic	296.116	284.283	580.399
Blooze	Ford Focus RS	296.479	284.084	580.563
Feuerdog	VW Golf GTi Mk6	297.764	283.283	581.047
Blooze	Peugeot 207	295.077	286.920	581.997
Feuerdog	Citroen C4	296.696	288.121	584.817
Bad One	Ford Focus RS	298.999	288.104	587.103
PureStankonia	Honda Civic	299.565	290.966	590.531
Blooze	Volvo C30 R	298.431	293.759	592.190
TheJohnNewton	Mini Cooper	299.766	295.512	595.278
Chuckrateez	Mini Cooper	305.339	291.308	596.647
Fit4aking	Alpha Romeo MiTo	304.971	291.692	596.663
PureStankonia	Ford Focus RS	306.756	296.746	603.502
Barumba	SEAT Leon SC	312.396	307.507	619.903
Barumba	Volvo C30 R	312.296	317.701	629.997
Barumba	Ford Focus RS	324.057	313.180	637.237

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[TheJohnNewton]

Cool, a reason to learn Kaido.

Ok I assume the times must be certified?  This may take a few runs 

[Blooze]

Well, certainly!!  heh

Besides, I can check on you...

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[Blooze]

I broke out the Peugeot 207 that I built yesterday and ran a QR on it.  It came out just behind the Leon SC to become the second fastest for me.  There is some transmission work that I want to look into for these new Turbo Charged cars.  That could change quite a bit for all of these, or most of them anyway.

I got two pretty good runs in with it...
New Uphill: 299.049   
New Downhill:  290.057

These are both top 500 times.

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[Spiny Anteater]

Well, the Astra has been sitting there in my garage looking for some action - guess now's the time

[feuerdog]

http://popup.lala.com/popup/432627056439124556  

[Bad One]

Well, it took a few runs but I finally managed not to miss a corner and go smashing into a wall

Focus RS
New Uphill:298.999 - That put me at 131, which was 2 above you, Blooze .  Pretty darn close.
New Downhill: 288.104

One thing I did note on the RS, is that the rears never get even close to being up to temp, probably because they're just along for the ride.
There's some time left in it, we'll see if I can improve them at all.   I think I took a couple corners much to slow, mostly because I smashed into them during a previous run.

[Blooze]

Those are some good times Bad One.

I don't drop the pressure on the back ones quite as much so the pressures will equalize because of the heat reason.

The downhill is a real bitch for me - I don't seem to be able to get into the wild free fall mode that is required to do well on them.

I got a couple more passes in with the Peugeot 207 this afternoon.

New Hillclimb: 296.864
New Downhill: 288.856

I'm gonna try to get to the Golf tomorrow or the next day and see how it does as a BTCC car.  

Speaking of which - the BTCC is on at Noon Central on the SPEED Channel, the German cars are on before that at 11:00.

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[Open2nd]

Focus RS:
NUH: 293.488
NDH: 278.406

Click pic for bigger version!

[Blooze]

Wuff, those are fast Open - I knew my time at the top was to be short lived.

I would dearly love to know how you got that affect on the numbers on the side of your car.

And, it looks like I need to revisit the Focus RS...

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[Spiny Anteater]

...
I would dearly love to know how you got that affect on the numbers on the side of your car.

...

I don't know if this is how Open did it, but here's how I'd do an outline 2 clicks wide:

Create the original "170" at point 0,0 in black
Highlight all, move left 2 and up 2 points then stamp
Move new item right 4 points then stamp
Move 3rd item down 4 points, stamp again
Move 4th item left 4 points, stamp yet again
Change new item to white, and move up 2 and right 2 points.

Just change the number of points you move to adjust the thickness of the outline.

[Blooze]

See?  I need lessons.   

I kept trying to do it with just two numbers and the Size button...

Thanks Spiny!!

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[Open2nd]

That's basically how I did it.

That Focus is pretty fun to drive.  One of my first forays into FWD and I'm sure the tune could be better still, but I'm not sure it would improve those times any.

I also still think the SEAT may be the go to car but I've yet to drive it to see.

[TheJohnNewton]

Found my old Blooze tune spreadsheet and tried tuning a Mini with it this morning.  Car came out with pretty decent nuetral handling but I think I'll make some updates to the sheet and go over some of the recent turning threads here.  Anyway I put in many runs on that big hill and now almost know most of the uphill direction.  Just squeeked under 5 minutes without hitting any walls.  Phew...

[Blooze]

I'll post a copy of the new one in the Spreadsheet Archive.  There are some accomodations for the crap they snuck in on us with the new version...

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