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Re: The Bench
« Reply #180 on: January 20, 2010, 06:58:22 AM »
Wooeee, tough afternoon yesterday - I started having seisures around lunch time and it took me till damn near midnight to get settled down.  I have days like that sometimes...

I sure do get addicted to stuff easy - glad I've never gotten off into drugs and alcohol.  Yesterday morning, in an attempt to get a warm cuddly feeling going, I mixed a couple spoonfuls of Hot Chocolat mix into my coffee.  Now I don't seem to be able to drink a cup of coffee without a dab of chocolat thrown into the mix...  :-\

Got a busy day planned for today's Forza efforts.  Got some lapping and racing to catch up on - still trying to pay off my splurge on the DTM cars this weekend.  I wish there was a way to hire a couple drivers to take care of that.  Later on, I hope to do a build on the VW GTI BTCC.  I still have a few cars from the list that I haven't built. 

A helpful hint of sorts - I've started letting the Anouncer Guy in the Events area bitch me out about a wrong car to get to the correct car - it seems to be faster than scrolling through my groups and whatnot in the garage.

So far we have a TV RL Racing League set up for B, A and R2 classes.  There are 2 ready made ones for R3, the NASCAR and Super V8 types.  But what about C class...  hmmm.  I just bought a VW Bora.  Can you tell what I am thinking...

Coffee's on, and there's a big can of Hot Chocolat mix by the pot...

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #181 on: January 20, 2010, 08:55:03 AM »
So you have a mocha addiction huh?   :)  I just made a batch of mocha ice cream last night.  I basically make french press coffee using the ice cream base mix then stir it into some melted chocolate, yum.  It's a great flavor combo.  I'm off to try to sort out my mix of C class cars...
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #182 on: January 20, 2010, 09:26:59 AM »
Jetta TDi cup?

Glad to hear you recovered from the seizures Blooze-man.  I can't imagine what that's like.

Now I gotta go find me some chocolate.

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #183 on: January 20, 2010, 09:46:31 AM »
Mmmm, chocolate mocha coffee.  I got hooked on that right about the time Starbucks installed a coffee machine in the Porsche Showroom.  You could watch the coffee make its way down into your cup and the hot chocolate nozzle would add just a tad and boy it was a good thing when that happened!!  I was definitely spoiled while that was around.

I made some time to run the Audi DTM car around Suzuka and I now know that I was doing it WRONG.  Your tune is light years faster than mine.  Haven't looked at the specs but it may not get a retune, its crazy fast as it is.  I was 11 seconds ahead 2nd place at the end of 5 laps and with a 20 second end timer no one else finished the race.  Excellent tune!!

If your scooping up Bora's and watching SPEED I can only guess that a version of the Jetta TDI Cup is floating around in your head.  I had a replica of one of them in FM2 but have yet to get that far along in 3.  I loved that little car and did well against Turbo 5's on the Snakes with a full grip build.   But I could be off base here.

I wish I had more time to sit around and chat but the showroom is gleaming with the sexy lines of a brand new Mercedes Gullwing.  It cost a pretty penny, close to 580,000cr's after appropriate parts, but man oh man, she screams on the straights, sticks in the turns, and gets attention everywhere we go.  I only have a 15 minute tune on it at the moment but it has proven itself time and time again on the track as a contender in C-class.  Aside from the Testa Rossa, it is on the more expensive side but I drive it just as hard as a Honda and with better results.  When I get it sorted perhaps I'll do a parade lap, don't expect a race livery as it would only detract from the car's inherent appeal, maroon is all the color it needs.

Think I'll go put a fresh coat of wax on her.......
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #184 on: January 20, 2010, 01:01:13 PM »
Part of the Audi DTM's advantage is that it is an outlaw (the Restrictor is removed)  I don't know if you knew that.

Yep, I guess it was pretty obvious - I watched the Jetta TDI races and wondered if we had something like that in Forza.   The Bora was the only "Saloon" looking car in the bunch so I thought maybe a challenge one day with those might be in order.  Say, Leguna Seca and Road Atlanta Long and Race Liveries... that sort of thing. 

That Mercedes sounds pretty strong...  and expensive!  I remarked earlier - Spiny better have himself a bank account when he fires up his Random Car selector.  ;D

I thought I was going to be able to sit on my car buying for the rest of the month - but now I got this urge to go get me a Firebird...

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #185 on: January 21, 2010, 08:53:44 AM »
Ha and Aha...  you guys make it sound as though the chocolat is more to blame than my pitiful constitution.  I feel better... ;D

The weather has been grey for two or three days now.  That starts to wear on a feller...

My forzacating is having trouble tracking for the last few days.  I flutter...

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #186 on: January 21, 2010, 10:27:26 AM »
I sure hope the world around you brightens up soon Blooze, some sun would do us all good.

Finished the second stage of build up on my World Tour cars and will update that thread when I'm back at my laptop.  I did find some weird happenings when I finished upgrading the cars.  My Infiniti was the head of my B-class roster with the big fat tires on it regardless of whether or not I was using all of the available grip.  I took some of the tire away and replaced it with much needed power only to find the Infiniti move to the opposite end of the list.  Oddly enough it's now right next to my Drag Tuned B-class Camaro.  Hmmm.  So I looked at it in Grid view and sure enough, head of the class was my Handling cars (Lotus Exige, M Coupe, Brera, etc.)  and all the way at the bottom of the list are my Power cars ('79 Camaro, Infiniti, 370Z, etc.).  I guess the game uses grip to sort out the cars but I don't know how cause I have some pretty high handling numbers on some lower level B500 cars.  Just something odd I noticed and make think.

Plugging away at Career to get some of the cash back I spent on the Merc Gullwing and its now time for some more R1 races, I will probably hire them away for the time being as I don't feel like messing with them.  Whatever it takes to get me through Season 6 though.

Seems the coffee pot is done gurglin and I do love me a hot cup...
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #187 on: January 21, 2010, 12:56:23 PM »
I don't know about the sort in the paddock.  I do know that I use the Grip @ 120 as my primary sort, and now, the Drag at 1 mile time as the secondary sort.  That seems to put them in the same order as the QR. 

But what I suspect with the game is that the order is a result of rounding.  The game will call anything from 499.500 to 500.499 Five Hundred (500) even. 

The other day I was using my build sheets to upgrade the Saleen.  I had selected the parts for what I called the tire build and the Pi had come out at 497 - on my sheet.  However, when it came to buying the parts, the Pi came to 493.  The Hp and Torque were off slightly as well.  I redid the thing in various orders watching the numbers change as I did.  The results were always the same, and for my part, the numbers changing from what was on my build sheet was the result of rounding calculations from either floating point or fixed 3 or 4 point to zero decimals.  The end result is that I had 7 pi points instead of 3, and 426 Hp instead of 423.

I think the same thing goes on within the Paddock.  The Pi is stored as, like I said, either a float or a fixed 3 point decimal, but the program displays the result of rounding the value to zero decimals.  So rather than a qualitative judgement on how the Pi were spent, the sort is based on a quantitative analysis of the rounding error...

I have heard tell there are studies on how a lack of sunshine is directly related to the severity of cabin fever...

Coffee Mocha for me...

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #188 on: January 21, 2010, 04:16:02 PM »
I sure hope the world around you brightens up soon Blooze, some sun would do us all good.
Good job of Hopin' there Fit!  The Sun came out!!

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #189 on: January 23, 2010, 07:54:45 AM »
I want the Gieco Gecco's Boss' ring tone...  "Ringa ding dingy dong..."

I noticed I was having trouble getting around the switchbacks on the Snakes with my Caddy LMP - then I noticed I wasn't turning the steering wheel enough to get around the switchbacks on the Snakes.  I guess I was hoping for some oversteer or something...  So that's my driving tip for the week - Turn the Wheel.

The first post in response to this week's Forza Summary over on the Daught Gnet...
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I would like more trucks and suvs including the Hummer H1, H2, H3, Lamborghini LM-002 (New concept and old production models), New Porsche Cayenne, JEEP Wrangler 00', Chevrolet Blazer 90', Ford SVT Lightning, F-150 Raptor, and The Chevrolet Silverado 95' model and new model.

I also have some supercars to include - Italdesign Nazca C2, Italdesign Cala, Lister Storm, Mclaren F1 (241mph street version), and The 2006 Maybach Exelero Concept.

Some cars I'm partial to - 1978 Lincoln Mark V, 1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1, 1993 Crysler New Yorker, 1996 Lincoln Town car Signature Series, 1998 Cadillac El Dorado ETC, 1999 Cadillac DeVille Gold Anniversary Edition (Gold logos), 2008 KIA Optima LX, and my 2004 MINI Cooper - base model.
Not even a "Good Post", or "The Contest was rigged" or anything to acknowledge he was in an editor intended for responses to a Blog Post.  Just hop directly to the begging...

Yes indeed, what this game needs is more SUVs...  I don't understand it.  Microsoft has lots of money.  How is it they haven't put a hit out on this, this..., this...  :-\

I guess I need to go out to Free Run and do some Snakes. 

Or drink more coffee...

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #190 on: January 23, 2010, 01:25:17 PM »
"over on the Daught Gnet..."

Well there's your problem right there  ;)  Don't they have a maximum age (or is it maturity?) limit on that board?  I don't think we qualify.
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Re: The Bench
« Reply #191 on: January 24, 2010, 08:33:57 PM »
More things come across the daught net than I would ever allow if I were in charge.  The incessant whining, the flaming, constant ranting, bah humbugging, and flat out malicious name calling would come to an end real quick.  But so would my job!  I don't know the mods keep from ripping some people a new one!

Luckily the threads I create have remained civil and the discussion has been positive or I'd opt out of dealing with the masses.

I'm working through season 6 at the moment with the hired driver handling most of my R1 races.  By the time its all said and done I hope to not have any more of those silly car events left on the list.
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« Reply #192 on: January 28, 2010, 07:08:02 AM »
It's slow around here this week.  Or slow all over.  There has been only 171 new accounts in the last 3 hours.  I would guestimate that that is only 20% of what it has been over the last month or so.

I got myself all a-scatter again.  I have rippin the hell out of R1 Class with my Cadillac Northstar the last few days (sitting at #51 for the class with the population @476,000), got some top 100s and a bunch of top 500s with it.  I really like the build.  I can drive the hell out of that car.  Hard!  Throw it around like it was a B Class AWD.  The only thing I can't do is take on that Peugeot 908 head to head with the Hard AI.  It can handle the Acura and the Porsche, but that Peugeot is just too fast, specially off the line.  But then, I guess the real world is having a hell of a time handling that Peugeot too...  Ah well.

Any how, I'll post or send that Northstar Toon to anybody that is interested.  I think the same build will work on most of the older R1 cars.  Just getting aholt of them at a Million+ a pop is the hard part...

Have you noticed that the 2010 Camaro and the 2010 Mustang have damn near identical stats?  And that they are both 2010 Grand Am GT cars?  Hmmmm

I was walking thru my garage this morning, which has ballooned to 134 cars.  I have many project irons in the fire...

  • BTCC - still have 4 of these to build.
  • S2000 - maybe 5 of these to go.
  • DTM - I have three of these, 2 seriously in debt.  I don't know if I'll get the other Audi.  But then, it could be the best Top Ender of the bunch.  There's a DTM car in R3...  (groan)
  • Grand Am Pony cars - haven't decided on these yet, but...
  • Super V8s...
  • NASCAR Sprint Cups - did you see where they are going back the spoiler in place of the wing?

See?  And then there is the rest of 'em...  All the Super Cars and Exotics that I have collected.  And I got a new one of those from a friend this weekend.

And all them VIP painters, got to do something with too...

And Dirt and Feuredog are way ahead of me in the B Class Kaido...  that will never do...

There is just so much to do...

I need a cup of coffee...

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Re: The Bench
« Reply #193 on: January 28, 2010, 10:30:51 AM »
Seems like you have as much if not more in your garage that needs tending to than I do.  Scary to actually step back and look at it all. 

I was closing up shop last night and before I flicked the switch and pushed open the back door I had to take a minute and look over my latest track star.  If the Blooze Brera is Track Ace v1, than my A class Renault Sport Clio V6 is Track Ace v2.  I have been building it in secret, Spanky know's about it but I've had to do a lot of top secret testing and keep the thing under wraps if anyone wanders by the track.  Makes for a difficult time.  I was able to knock over 11 seconds off of the stock lap time on Catalunya National and the car is by far the most tuned car in my garage.  Everything is tuned to the tenth! Everything.  Well I had a buddy stop by the track and catch sight of it before I could get it whoa'd down and into the pits so the cat was out of the bag.  He swore to secrecy but I had to give him a couple laps in the car to meet his demands.  After 3 laps it was a steaming pile of twisted metal and a fume of curses flew out the window at me.  I could barely catch the keys as he stormed off in disgust.  The car is undriveable in his hands.  *sigh*

I've come to grips with the fact I can't tune a car for anyone else, it's just not in the cards.  I must have missed that day in Tuning Class.  I can make myself a rocket, suited perfectly for my driving style but I must be the smoothest driver in existence with a pennance for throttle control because everyone that has given me feedback recently has HATED my cars.  The Hyundai in D-class - deemed a failure.  The Caddy in A-class - bottom of the pack.  My C-class Scirroco - back of the pecking order.  My B-class Ferrari 512TR - too slow!  All of these cars can win or podium easily in my hands online, can set times in the top 1000 or 1% all day long, run consistant laps with me driving......but the second I hand them off to a test driver, a competition host, or even to the FM.net execs I'm shown the hard truth that the cars are MINE, not for the masses.

As I listened for the alarm beep I think it reaffirmed the fact that Spanky's Speedshop is more a race team and Fit-Tuned cars are just that....tuned for Fit.  Perhaps it is best I don't market my cars more or worry about poor Storefront sales and focus on my overall enjoyment a bit more.  Trying to establish myself as a tuner isn't paying the bills or really worth the effort as I had hoped.

I'll keep pondering it while I wait for the results of what very well may be the last .net tuning competition I spend building and tweaking a car for.
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« Reply #194 on: January 28, 2010, 03:49:04 PM »
Believe me, Fit ole buddy, I know the frustration with which you speak.  I myself am totally in shock that the world isn't beating down the door to get to my Wb tuning system, or to try to understand it better.

But there is a thing we say all the time when chatting with new guys who are trying to get a handle on the tuning - "Everybody's different, their driving style, their reaction to driving issues."   It is just as hard to build a tune for someone as it is for someone to use another person's tune.

For instance, you and me - you think that TVR and Panoz make good cars.  That right there tells me you and I will never be on the same page as far as what is expected from a car's handling characteristics.  And you think my cars are tight as a school Marm's butt, most likely.

You are doing good with your Tuning Threads.  People are paying attention, or trying to.  They appreciate the effort you are putting forth.  I've seen the posts.

But it can be a burden.  I imagine that you are feeling a bit pressured to keep the thing going, specially when you personally have already gone past the cars associated with that post.   And there is the Free Tunes thread - and your obligation to monitor that and keep it updated, the responsibilty of the Pinned Thread.  That sort of thing can wear on you.  I know...

I looked into the Tuning House pretty hard in the last game.  Built a car, did the whole bit with the "Release Thread", taking orders, the whole nine yards.   That one experience was enough to let me know I wasn't cut out for that end of the game.  It is hard to maintain the level of activity required to get the exposure required to compete in the Tuning Garage world.  And test drivers... another issue.  Got to get a time high on the leaderboard...  a number #1 being the pot of gold.

Now, there is one thing that you excel at - something that can make you a ton of money on the storefronts.  Your paint jobs.   I would think you would do quite well in that area.

I have thought about it, plotted and planned a couple different campaignes.  But when it comes time to kick it off, I just can't get over the hump.  Because I know, it is going to get me tied up in the middle of a responsibility that is hard to get away from.   Remember my Transmission Tuner?  Fifty pages of the dumbest shit you ever saw, but there was the occassional honest question, or intelligent response and you feel a responsibility toward that.  Finally I just had to say, I'm done.

I say all that mostly to let you know that I understand how you're feeling.  And if you were to dump either of those threads over on the Daught Gnet in favor of some peace, I, for one, would completely understand.

Don't let yourself get painted in a corner.

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